Alexei, Micah Rodman
## Key Points
- Discussed vision for a construction data layer built on top of documents (drawings, specs, contracts)
- Data layer starts with PDFs, initially focusing on MEP
- Partnership approach: Kojo could leverage data layer for end-to-end takeoff service
- Kojo is in procurement space, actively looking at takeoff as important area
- Also interested in: spec interactivity (nascent LLM opportunity) and submittal comparison (spec vs submittal)
- Compelling use case from data center builders: continuous CI/CD checking of design drawings against procured items
- Alexei disagreed with claims that takeoff is "solved" by LLMs (e.g., Mike Powers' claims)
- Accuracy requires fine-tuning models per trade and integrating trade-specific knowledge
- Demonstrated lighting detection (types, circuits) and initial HVAC detection
- Vendor responsibility for takeoffs is often pushed down — cited ABB collaboration on switchgear
## Product Feedback
- Agreed on general concept: start with core documents to extract data for operational workflows
- Takeoff is critical and important workflow
- Spec interactivity is exciting opportunity given Kojo's distribution
- Last 5% accuracy requires specialized trade knowledge
## Next Steps
- Follow-up meeting in new year to discuss specific use case (lights or rooms)